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WRX Upgrades and I ned some help
scoobierex Mon Aug 17, 2009 8:53 pm
Okay, I need suggestions and of course some help to make the WRX all it can be! I am thinking about starting off with a cold air intake and Cobb exhaust, 18" XXR 518 and some new tires. I want to make this subi of my dreams a reality. First step is where to and what do I need to do first?
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Re: WRX Upgrades and I ned some help
gonzosti Tue Aug 18, 2009 1:41 am
scoobierex wrote:Okay, I need suggestions and of course some help to make the WRX all it can be! I am thinking about starting off with a cold air intake and Cobb exhaust, 18" XXR 518 and some new tires. I want to make this subi of my dreams a reality. First step is where to and what do I need to do first?
Looks like your off to a good start.....Group install.
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Re: WRX Upgrades and I ned some help
catgut Tue Aug 18, 2009 2:01 am
Depends on what your dream-WRX-vision is.
Show (aesthetics)?
Autocross (handling)?
Drag (power)?
Not having actually driven an '09 WRX, I'm not sure what your current powerband feels like but I'm certain you have more peak power than my '08 (even with my stage-2 mods) but I'm not sure where you start making usable power for autocross for example.
Give us an idea (in order of priority) of the aspects above and I'm sure we can all put our heads together for some logical suggestions to make the most of your investment.
J
Show (aesthetics)?
Autocross (handling)?
Drag (power)?
Not having actually driven an '09 WRX, I'm not sure what your current powerband feels like but I'm certain you have more peak power than my '08 (even with my stage-2 mods) but I'm not sure where you start making usable power for autocross for example.
Give us an idea (in order of priority) of the aspects above and I'm sure we can all put our heads together for some logical suggestions to make the most of your investment.
J
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catgut Tue Aug 18, 2009 2:02 am
scoobierex wrote:Okay, I need suggestions and of course some help to make the WRX all it can be! I am thinking about starting off with a cold air intake and Cobb exhaust, 18" XXR 518 and some new tires. I want to make this subi of my dreams a reality. First step is where to and what do I need to do first?
Before we go any further....so no sale??? Convinced wife huh?
J
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gummx97 Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:53 am
catgut wrote:scoobierex wrote:Okay, I need suggestions and of course some help to make the WRX all it can be! I am thinking about starting off with a cold air intake and Cobb exhaust, 18" XXR 518 and some new tires. I want to make this subi of my dreams a reality. First step is where to and what do I need to do first?
Before we go any further....so no sale??? Convinced wife huh?
J
this is sweet!!! hahahaha...decided to keep it, wait till you run autox when it's wet!!
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Re: WRX Upgrades and I ned some help
scoobierex Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:56 am
The way we see it is I really want to learn how to work on the Scoob and I want to make it a fun reliable way to get around. I definitely want to make it a mix between show and racing. I will need help with my baby!
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gummx97 Tue Aug 18, 2009 12:18 pm
Well, you obviously came to the right Club!!! Let the mods begin!!!
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catgut Tue Aug 18, 2009 12:18 pm
Sounds innocent enough.... 
we'll see how far that goes 
"learn how to work on the Scoob" = wrenching time and that just comes with the territory
"I want to make it a fun reliable way to get around" = as near stock as possible without extreme mods that make the car a daily chore (in my humble opinion
) trust me I know. I know you have a rig and you might know exactly what I'm talking about...or not.
Keep me out of aesthetic stuff but ask me anything else and I'll give my opinion. I think maybe you should drive that beast stock for awhile in some events, get to know it's strengths and weaknesses (your driving skill included; you just might find that it might not need much and you're an up-&-coming Mario Andretti) so you can just work on appearance and make a more educated assessment to improve your decisions. You know we're always glad to help on here. Unless you are made of $$$$$$ and have a limitless budget....hey, talk to us!!!
J
we'll see how far that goes "learn how to work on the Scoob" = wrenching time and that just comes with the territory
"I want to make it a fun reliable way to get around" = as near stock as possible without extreme mods that make the car a daily chore (in my humble opinion
) trust me I know. I know you have a rig and you might know exactly what I'm talking about...or not.Keep me out of aesthetic stuff but ask me anything else and I'll give my opinion. I think maybe you should drive that beast stock for awhile in some events, get to know it's strengths and weaknesses (your driving skill included; you just might find that it might not need much and you're an up-&-coming Mario Andretti) so you can just work on appearance
and make a more educated assessment to improve your decisions. You know we're always glad to help on here. Unless you are made of $$$$$$ and have a limitless budget....hey, talk to us!!!J
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gummx97 Tue Aug 18, 2009 12:24 pm
three quarters of the fun is getting there for your mods, in the true and infamous words of Jhesse....
"Keep an open mind..."
"Keep an open mind..."
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Re: WRX Upgrades and I ned some help
catgut Tue Aug 18, 2009 12:39 pm
Mod #1 = DAMN GOOD TIRES
Things your '09 has going for you that is an improvement over the Camry-like ride of an '08 WRX:
1. Stiffer suspension springs: +42 to 43%
2. Dampers revised for stiffer springs: more unsprung weight control
3. STi upper strut mounts: stiffer and more direct steering feel
4. Stiffer sway bars: +22 to 29%
5. Quicker ratio steering rack: Rumor
6. Better factory tires: 225/45 R17
7. More output: 265HP / 244 lb-ft.
J
Things your '09 has going for you that is an improvement over the Camry-like ride of an '08 WRX:
1. Stiffer suspension springs: +42 to 43%
2. Dampers revised for stiffer springs: more unsprung weight control
3. STi upper strut mounts: stiffer and more direct steering feel
4. Stiffer sway bars: +22 to 29%
5. Quicker ratio steering rack: Rumor
6. Better factory tires: 225/45 R17
7. More output: 265HP / 244 lb-ft.
J
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catgut Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:43 pm
Just a note.
If you're aiming for a particular class to run in for autocross, be aware that your wheel and tire choices will affect your outcome.
In a nutshell G.R.S.C.C.A. runs three classes: Stock (S), Street Tuner (ST), and Street Modified (SM).
Your limits for S and ST are a 225mm wide tire with no less than 140 tread wear. To stay in stock you have to use your factory wheels. You can upgrade your wheels and use 225mm wide tires but you get bumped to ST. Any wider tires and you go straight to SM.
J
If you're aiming for a particular class to run in for autocross, be aware that your wheel and tire choices will affect your outcome.
In a nutshell G.R.S.C.C.A. runs three classes: Stock (S), Street Tuner (ST), and Street Modified (SM).
Your limits for S and ST are a 225mm wide tire with no less than 140 tread wear. To stay in stock you have to use your factory wheels. You can upgrade your wheels and use 225mm wide tires but you get bumped to ST. Any wider tires and you go straight to SM.
J
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Re: WRX Upgrades and I ned some help
subantha Fri Aug 21, 2009 3:46 am
9 BIG FOG LIGHTS ON THE FRONT BUMPER! 
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Re: WRX Upgrades and I ned some help
dhonn17 Sat Aug 22, 2009 1:15 am
Yup Like me, Jesse put me straight to ST class hehehehe supposed to be in S class Peace Jesse..... 
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catgut Sat Aug 22, 2009 1:58 am
Just an important note on classing and my experience to help us all out:
Yes I know, going straight into ST class is a little intimidating and I'm sure most everyone wants to start in S class; I did! But, I didn't read the rules before-hand and didn't ask questions so I made some mods to my WRX out of pure excitement and need for POWER: cold-air intake, catless downpipe, catback exhaust, drop springs, & BOV. So, the tech on my first autox day put me in ST class; exclaimed that any mod to a factory turbo car bumps me to ST...he not realizing I had a catless downpipe at the time.
I ran ST for 3-races until another tech inspected my car and found the catless DP. He told me I had to run in SM class because G.R.S.C.C.A. rules state that to remain in S or ST I have keep the catalytic converter intact....bummer. Now I'm swimming with the likes of the SM sharks like Jhay (white monster STi), Manny Q. (RX-7 autox whiz), Adrian B. (aka Mr. smooth), Chris G. (Mr. skills S2000 blur), Dan D. (formidable Pink Hachi), and a serious silver Evo8 that corners like there's no tomorrow! So, in short I screwed myself by doing mods that put me into SM class (unlimited class basically) with my measly DP, intake, BOV, useless Cobb springs, and stock cr@ppy 205mm TIRES!!!! So, it was my fault for not asking questions. Guess what my next mod was? . . . . . . Direzza Star Specs = -4 seconds from my previous consistent lap times you can ask our honorable president Mmanni39 what that first day was like with those tires; it was pouring buckets 
So, G.R.S.C.C.A. has decided that within its rules the Subaru STi will fall into the ST category unmodified since it does come with a race-ready suspension from the factory and power is high (force induced)when compared to most other cars. For dhonn17 I'm still not 100% sure at this point if that still applies because of tire & wheel size and I have to discuss with the other techs and leadership of G.R.S.C.C.A. to make sure we are all in agreement about what class you fall into. I'm in full support of ST but that's only my opinion.
My lesson learned: "Ask questions first"
Otherwise you'll be easily bumped to a class that you never imagined you would be in and the learning curve goes from a slight slope to almost vertical!
I only wish to help everyone out by giving some guidance from the get-go so you don't accidentally put yourself into a class you never intended to be in. For me it was a challenge and still is but I pulled it off over time and it's fun! I just don't want others on here who are mere dabblers or simply just want to try out autox get intimidated more than usual and feel like they were not guided; that's pretty nerve-wracking. I wish I asked questions before but oh well, that's water under the bridge
Please ask if you need help or guidance!
**alright, back to scoobierex original thread: let's give him some mod advice!
J
Yes I know, going straight into ST class is a little intimidating and I'm sure most everyone wants to start in S class; I did! But, I didn't read the rules before-hand and didn't ask questions so I made some mods to my WRX out of pure excitement and need for POWER: cold-air intake, catless downpipe, catback exhaust, drop springs, & BOV. So, the tech on my first autox day put me in ST class; exclaimed that any mod to a factory turbo car bumps me to ST...he not realizing I had a catless downpipe at the time.
I ran ST for 3-races until another tech inspected my car and found the catless DP. He told me I had to run in SM class because G.R.S.C.C.A. rules state that to remain in S or ST I have keep the catalytic converter intact....bummer. Now I'm swimming with the likes of the SM sharks like Jhay (white monster STi), Manny Q. (RX-7 autox whiz), Adrian B. (aka Mr. smooth), Chris G. (Mr. skills S2000 blur), Dan D. (formidable Pink Hachi), and a serious silver Evo8 that corners like there's no tomorrow! So, in short I screwed myself by doing mods that put me into SM class (unlimited class basically) with my measly DP, intake, BOV, useless Cobb springs, and stock cr@ppy 205mm TIRES!!!! So, it was my fault for not asking questions. Guess what my next mod was? . . . . . . Direzza Star Specs = -4 seconds from my previous consistent lap times
you can ask our honorable president Mmanni39 what that first day was like with those tires; it was pouring buckets So, G.R.S.C.C.A. has decided that within its rules the Subaru STi will fall into the ST category unmodified since it does come with a race-ready suspension from the factory and power is high (force induced)when compared to most other cars. For dhonn17 I'm still not 100% sure at this point if that still applies because of tire & wheel size and I have to discuss with the other techs and leadership of G.R.S.C.C.A. to make sure we are all in agreement about what class you fall into. I'm in full support of ST but that's only my opinion.
My lesson learned: "Ask questions first"
Otherwise you'll be easily bumped to a class that you never imagined you would be in and the learning curve goes from a slight slope to almost vertical!
I only wish to help everyone out by giving some guidance from the get-go so you don't accidentally put yourself into a class you never intended to be in. For me it was a challenge and still is but I pulled it off over time and it's fun! I just don't want others on here who are mere dabblers or simply just want to try out autox get intimidated more than usual and feel like they were not guided; that's pretty nerve-wracking. I wish I asked questions before but oh well, that's water under the bridge Please ask if you need help or guidance!
**alright, back to scoobierex original thread: let's give him some mod advice!
J
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Mmanni39 Sat Aug 22, 2009 3:24 am
very nice and you better thank your wife. I really understand how you are feeling about your subie, I think I and others can contest your situation. Jess is right along with others what do you desire, and where do you want to go with your subie? I myself have changed my style, I wanted power, power, and power, but after driving up and down from Maina to Andersen I thought it was not going to work for me. Not only that didn't want my wife to be stuck with a car she can't drive or even know what to do. Then Jay introduce me to the sport of Autocross and made more of a reason not to go with pure power but to understand the stability of my silver gaga. This is entirely up to you, we are more then happy to help you out. Let us know, a lot of knowledge here and now I can say Welcome to SCG.
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